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		<title>By: Sanford Shapiro</title>
		<link>http://www.ldresources.org/2004/07/08/boulder-creek-academy/#comment-285143</link>
		<dc:creator>Sanford Shapiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 23:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shea,
It doesn't make me mad when anyone expresses an opinion that's negative or positive.  That's what the site is for.  Giving your opinion and sharing relevant bits of your story is really helpful.

What I've experienced over the years is that one family or student can love a school and think it was great and another can have the opposite perception of the same school.  What does that tell us?  I know many many families, kids included, who feel they owe their lives to the school, despite the flaws.

For me, it suggests that you should focus on describing your experience, rather than blanket statements such as "the school sucks."  It's much more helpful for parents and kids, searching for options.  

In my opinion, it's more credible to explain your experience with the academics of BCA, (and perhaps even take some responsibility?), than saying "academics are a joke." 

About ten years ago i was the Academic Director there.  Different ownership, different program perhaps.  It was incredibly challenging to offer relevant quality academics in an environment that puts so much focus on emotional and behavioral problem-solving and growth.  There are times when academics has to take a back seat at least temporarily. 

I wouldn't be surprised if similar challenges existed today. I'm not making excuses; I have no dog in that fight.  We probably want the same thing, good outcomes for kids.

Good luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shea,<br />
It doesn&#8217;t make me mad when anyone expresses an opinion that&#8217;s negative or positive.  That&#8217;s what the site is for.  Giving your opinion and sharing relevant bits of your story is really helpful.</p>
<p>What I&#8217;ve experienced over the years is that one family or student can love a school and think it was great and another can have the opposite perception of the same school.  What does that tell us?  I know many many families, kids included, who feel they owe their lives to the school, despite the flaws.</p>
<p>For me, it suggests that you should focus on describing your experience, rather than blanket statements such as &#8220;the school sucks.&#8221;  It&#8217;s much more helpful for parents and kids, searching for options.  </p>
<p>In my opinion, it&#8217;s more credible to explain your experience with the academics of BCA, (and perhaps even take some responsibility?), than saying &#8220;academics are a joke.&#8221; </p>
<p>About ten years ago i was the Academic Director there.  Different ownership, different program perhaps.  It was incredibly challenging to offer relevant quality academics in an environment that puts so much focus on emotional and behavioral problem-solving and growth.  There are times when academics has to take a back seat at least temporarily. </p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if similar challenges existed today. I&#8217;m not making excuses; I have no dog in that fight.  We probably want the same thing, good outcomes for kids.</p>
<p>Good luck.</p>
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		<title>By: Shea</title>
		<link>http://www.ldresources.org/2004/07/08/boulder-creek-academy/#comment-284899</link>
		<dc:creator>Shea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 00:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The melanie that commented above was the one i was talking about. I think the first post i made on this side i kind of blew things out of proportion, to qoute the Joker from the Dark Knight, about BCA. I definitly shouldnt've used melanie's name, so if shes on I apologize to her. 
Sanford, I hope I'm not making you mad by posting negative stuff about bca, i'm just expressing my opinion. Can you reply on this site to me about your feelings, i don't have an email. thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The melanie that commented above was the one i was talking about. I think the first post i made on this side i kind of blew things out of proportion, to qoute the Joker from the Dark Knight, about BCA. I definitly shouldnt&#8217;ve used melanie&#8217;s name, so if shes on I apologize to her.<br />
Sanford, I hope I&#8217;m not making you mad by posting negative stuff about bca, i&#8217;m just expressing my opinion. Can you reply on this site to me about your feelings, i don&#8217;t have an email. thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Sanford Shapiro</title>
		<link>http://www.ldresources.org/2004/07/08/boulder-creek-academy/#comment-284792</link>
		<dc:creator>Sanford Shapiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 14:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Melanie,
What email?  You can contact me at sanfordmshapiro@gmail.com

Sanford</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Melanie,<br />
What email?  You can contact me at <a href="mailto:sanfordmshapiro@gmail.com">sanfordmshapiro@gmail.com</a></p>
<p>Sanford</p>
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		<title>By: Melanie</title>
		<link>http://www.ldresources.org/2004/07/08/boulder-creek-academy/#comment-284639</link>
		<dc:creator>Melanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 00:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sanford,

Can you please respond to my email with your phone, number so I can call you?

Thank you,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sanford,</p>
<p>Can you please respond to my email with your phone, number so I can call you?</p>
<p>Thank you,</p>
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		<title>By: squirrel</title>
		<link>http://www.ldresources.org/2004/07/08/boulder-creek-academy/#comment-282076</link>
		<dc:creator>squirrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 01:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey this is squirrel. some of you know who i am. i am looking for old friends i had because i had some very close ones at bca. i work alot to say the least in kind of a stressful job. if any one knows of a way that i can track down students, my friends, please post it. i will be checking...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey this is squirrel. some of you know who i am. i am looking for old friends i had because i had some very close ones at bca. i work alot to say the least in kind of a stressful job. if any one knows of a way that i can track down students, my friends, please post it. i will be checking&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jordan greene</title>
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		<dc:creator>jordan greene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 04:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i was a student at BCA from septemer 11-06- september 22-08, i was kicked out for having sex while i was 18. From the very start i was in love with the program. My case was very different from anyone that i have ever met there. I was very happy until i left then i realized that the program that the emotional work was not as intense as other programs. Now i live with a women who as been in this type of work for years. And has singel handly opened her own program. i am very happy and i am finshing school if you would like to contact me my email address whitewedding13@gmail.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i was a student at BCA from septemer 11-06- september 22-08, i was kicked out for having sex while i was 18. From the very start i was in love with the program. My case was very different from anyone that i have ever met there. I was very happy until i left then i realized that the program that the emotional work was not as intense as other programs. Now i live with a women who as been in this type of work for years. And has singel handly opened her own program. i am very happy and i am finshing school if you would like to contact me my email address <a href="mailto:whitewedding13@gmail.com">whitewedding13@gmail.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: A Challenge Student (BH)</title>
		<link>http://www.ldresources.org/2004/07/08/boulder-creek-academy/#comment-277262</link>
		<dc:creator>A Challenge Student (BH)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 00:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Erol on his opinions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Erol on his opinions.</p>
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		<title>By: shea</title>
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		<dc:creator>shea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know this isn't supposed to be a chat room, but i'd like to say hi to erol, and hope he's doing well, and to let me know how he's doing. He was one of my friends at BCA. I hope he will give me his infromation too.

All the points Erol made were completely true. The academics there were a joke. I don't think I learned much from them, and many of the students commenting on this page would agree. Now that I'm taking real classes at my new public high school in Austin, Texas (the best city on earth), I'm actually learning things as a senior, and i will also graduate in June. If you actually want to get a legit eduaction for you child, BCA would not be a great idea. 
The reason I post so much is not so I can bash BCA. It's because I want to help parents who are looking for a placement for their child realize the reality of bca from a primary source who's exeprienced the stuff that goes on there. There are other soltuions besides bca, and if you've noticed, none of the students, even the ones that graduated the program, like myself, have not had good exepriences from being at this school. And for the price of sending your child there, it's not worth spending $72,000 a year. Parents, I hope you understand what I have just said in this post. These comments aren't to bash on bca, they're to help out your child and try to pick a different path to have your child live a better life and experience more things. Thanks for listening everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this isn&#8217;t supposed to be a chat room, but i&#8217;d like to say hi to erol, and hope he&#8217;s doing well, and to let me know how he&#8217;s doing. He was one of my friends at BCA. I hope he will give me his infromation too.</p>
<p>All the points Erol made were completely true. The academics there were a joke. I don&#8217;t think I learned much from them, and many of the students commenting on this page would agree. Now that I&#8217;m taking real classes at my new public high school in Austin, Texas (the best city on earth), I&#8217;m actually learning things as a senior, and i will also graduate in June. If you actually want to get a legit eduaction for you child, BCA would not be a great idea.<br />
The reason I post so much is not so I can bash BCA. It&#8217;s because I want to help parents who are looking for a placement for their child realize the reality of bca from a primary source who&#8217;s exeprienced the stuff that goes on there. There are other soltuions besides bca, and if you&#8217;ve noticed, none of the students, even the ones that graduated the program, like myself, have not had good exepriences from being at this school. And for the price of sending your child there, it&#8217;s not worth spending $72,000 a year. Parents, I hope you understand what I have just said in this post. These comments aren&#8217;t to bash on bca, they&#8217;re to help out your child and try to pick a different path to have your child live a better life and experience more things. Thanks for listening everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Erol</title>
		<link>http://www.ldresources.org/2004/07/08/boulder-creek-academy/#comment-276170</link>
		<dc:creator>Erol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'd like to post my opinion on BCA from a students stand point. Though i was expelled from the school (mainly for disrespect and sexual behavior) which i will talk more about later, i understand what the staff and administration are trying to teach i just disagree with it, I voiced this and as a result was not only rudely ignored a countless amount of times, but expelled.

I understand for parents reading this you may be skeptical about input from a student who was expelled, So i would like to clarify on what grounds i was expelled and my beliefs.

I admit I did do some things that I consider disrespectful, for instance after reading on this website some of the allogations of the school's pretecessory owners CEDU had strong ties to a cult, and that the "end all be all" and "life changing experience" workshop the Summit was owned by a cult. I had ammo to go after these workshops you are made to go through or spend time doing physical labor until the next one comes around. They refer to the workshops as "take it or leave it" when in reality it's take it or work on the farm. I publicly at a House Around ( an event that takes place multiple times a day in order for staff to keep track of students and make general announcements) after a workshop had been announced i regretebly said "Brainwashing" this sparked ongoing controversy throughout the school and promoted this type of free thinking among the student body. One of my most memorable arguments is when a staff member (one of my favorites too) told me i was being "too logical" to be honest i did not think the modern human brain could produce such in lack of a bettter word stupid remark. the constant pwer struggle between myself and the program continued I'm not saying that i blocked it all out either i agreed with a fair deal of the morals that they tried to teach, and i helped promote them but i did the same thing the other way too.

I was a model leader and Academic Student at BCA never placing below 3.8 GPA during my entire stay. I am a very political person and i was not afraid to speak out and stand up for myself, and that was my demise.

I would agree with most of the other student comments as i am friends with most of them i think the things you really need to watch out for at this school, are Staff manipulation, repressed thoughts and ideas (this can a very damging thing to an adolescents and can possibly effect theyre way of standing up for what they believe for the rest of their life), over medication ( be careful theyre currnet doctor has a student perscribed alias "the candyman"), lack of therapy for CERTAIN students...
well as my time has run out in this current free class period i have i will finish posting tommorow</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to post my opinion on BCA from a students stand point. Though i was expelled from the school (mainly for disrespect and sexual behavior) which i will talk more about later, i understand what the staff and administration are trying to teach i just disagree with it, I voiced this and as a result was not only rudely ignored a countless amount of times, but expelled.</p>
<p>I understand for parents reading this you may be skeptical about input from a student who was expelled, So i would like to clarify on what grounds i was expelled and my beliefs.</p>
<p>I admit I did do some things that I consider disrespectful, for instance after reading on this website some of the allogations of the school&#8217;s pretecessory owners CEDU had strong ties to a cult, and that the &#8220;end all be all&#8221; and &#8220;life changing experience&#8221; workshop the Summit was owned by a cult. I had ammo to go after these workshops you are made to go through or spend time doing physical labor until the next one comes around. They refer to the workshops as &#8220;take it or leave it&#8221; when in reality it&#8217;s take it or work on the farm. I publicly at a House Around ( an event that takes place multiple times a day in order for staff to keep track of students and make general announcements) after a workshop had been announced i regretebly said &#8220;Brainwashing&#8221; this sparked ongoing controversy throughout the school and promoted this type of free thinking among the student body. One of my most memorable arguments is when a staff member (one of my favorites too) told me i was being &#8220;too logical&#8221; to be honest i did not think the modern human brain could produce such in lack of a bettter word stupid remark. the constant pwer struggle between myself and the program continued I&#8217;m not saying that i blocked it all out either i agreed with a fair deal of the morals that they tried to teach, and i helped promote them but i did the same thing the other way too.</p>
<p>I was a model leader and Academic Student at BCA never placing below 3.8 GPA during my entire stay. I am a very political person and i was not afraid to speak out and stand up for myself, and that was my demise.</p>
<p>I would agree with most of the other student comments as i am friends with most of them i think the things you really need to watch out for at this school, are Staff manipulation, repressed thoughts and ideas (this can a very damging thing to an adolescents and can possibly effect theyre way of standing up for what they believe for the rest of their life), over medication ( be careful theyre currnet doctor has a student perscribed alias &#8220;the candyman&#8221;), lack of therapy for CERTAIN students&#8230;<br />
well as my time has run out in this current free class period i have i will finish posting tommorow</p>
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		<title>By: A Challenge Student (BH)</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Challenge Student (BH)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like Shea, Matt, Evan, and Sean, I am a past student of Boulder Creek Academy.  I will first say that I actually learned something from BCA.  Sure, I didn't like it the 20 months I was there, but it does have some strong points.  Meeting kids from around the country is really cool, not to mention when kids from your town go to BCA at the same time as you.  The workshops, I will say, helped me out.  A few of them didn't help me out as much as I wanted them to, but it was what you put into them (unfortunately for the students, we heard that a lot).  For us as students, the rules of Boulder Creek Academy tightened over the 20-month period of my stay there.  It went from students having a voice, to virtually no voice at all.  I'm honestly not trying to bash on the school, but it has been going really downhill those 20 months.
For an emotional price of (no sarcasm)pain and misery for yourself and quite possibly your child, please consider what I have said.

Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like Shea, Matt, Evan, and Sean, I am a past student of Boulder Creek Academy.  I will first say that I actually learned something from BCA.  Sure, I didn&#8217;t like it the 20 months I was there, but it does have some strong points.  Meeting kids from around the country is really cool, not to mention when kids from your town go to BCA at the same time as you.  The workshops, I will say, helped me out.  A few of them didn&#8217;t help me out as much as I wanted them to, but it was what you put into them (unfortunately for the students, we heard that a lot).  For us as students, the rules of Boulder Creek Academy tightened over the 20-month period of my stay there.  It went from students having a voice, to virtually no voice at all.  I&#8217;m honestly not trying to bash on the school, but it has been going really downhill those 20 months.<br />
For an emotional price of (no sarcasm)pain and misery for yourself and quite possibly your child, please consider what I have said.</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
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